Registering new M or G codes is stupidly simple. Calling up sub programs from a main is really easy. Massive programs handle loading, editing, etc exactly the same way as small ones. Much more "modern" navigation for the program manager. Ability to write more than one line on an MDI command. Simulation can be done in the background, while something else is running. Really good conversational probing menus, which can be run in jog mode. Ability to jog multiple axis simultaneously by hand. A conversational menu for almost every canned cycle, even when running posted code. Load monitoring, etc is really intuitive. Ability to use tool names at M6 instead of numbers. Much, much more powerful automation, variable handling, etc.
Here are some positives of each controller, in my super subjective view.
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The CTX specifically is notorious for being full of "quirks". However, as much as I do like them, DMG is not known for the robustness of any of their products. It is an awesome platform, and I really like the Siemens integration on the CTX beta. I can't speak for the Multus, and I have zero experience with Okuma turning. I have an M560V with the OSP300 controller.
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I have a Doosan and some other Korean and Taiwanese machines, all Fanuc, and they are good enough for what they are, but they really have lots of niggling little things that are frustrating, on the hardware and the software side.
I also want a higher end machine with better thought out features and more carefully implemented control integration. I want operator friendliness and features that will cut setup times and help me get the first part right first time, not an obtuse control that gets in the way. The SMX would probably be a good enough machine in production but that's not what we're buying this for.
Doosan are keen to sell us one of their SMX machines, but it's a Fanuc. I am familiar with Fanuc, and I do know that I definitely don't want a Fanuc control on this machine. I love the Okuma iron, but the Siemens controller is leaps and bounds superior.Could you elaborate on that? Like I said, I have no experience with either so I'm really keen to get some hard information on this from people who know both. I own a machine with an OSP300, and a machine with a Siemens 840D. Have you visited other shops to see what they have to say about the machines and service? Are any shops there running the NTX instead of the CTX? It sounds like the UK has similar advantages to Socal. For the minimal amount of service we've required, we've never had any issues with getting a tech in here. We also happen to be in Southern California, somewhat of a priority location for DMG Mori (high density of machine shops) and just a one hour flight from their Davis factory. I'm not familiar with the DMG side of the things, other than the fact that the DMU line has been picking up traction here in the states. If/when we pick up a mill-turn, it's going to be difficult to steer us away from the NTX. Mazak dominate in the bigger shops that buy new machines frequently, but I don't want to deal with them for reasons already explained.We're a very satisfied DMG Mori shop, but our machines are squarely from the Mori side (NLX, NHX), as is the case with most USA shops. DMG were here in person two days after first contact.ĭMG (as in DMG - there are plenty of Mori's around) and Okuma both are pretty thin on the ground in Scotland. Okuma were very responsive to us during previous enquiries but their local representative has changed since then and I'm not really getting the same sense of urgency from the new guy. Okuma are on the other side of the planet, and are represented by a single dealership with an unknown service force. That's a lot of manpower for a country this size. DMG have an overnight parts service from Germany to the UK, and somewhere between 100-200 (I forget the exact number) service guys on staff in the UK. My biggest fear is based in the fact that we are in a very different place geographically from all of you. I knew going in that the overwhelming majority would be in favour of Okuma.
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